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relegated to a role of helping the government discern engineer problems in toyota cars that essentially nasa, that got us to the moon, is now mr. good wrench. >> well, you look for the best talent and if you have a car problem and you want to find what the best talent is to look at a problem, looks like you may go to nasa. >> neil: you don't believe that, buzz? you went to the moon, discovered and done things that are historic. and now, you're nasa people looking under the hoods? its ridiculous. >> all right. i'm not here to talk about toyota. >> neil: next week the president makes a big speech, talk to get nasa core stars, veterans, you're going to be there and other big heroes will be there. but he's talking about downsizing nasa, right? >> i don't know as that's the case. the budget is increased now. >> neil: the post shuttle effort is nixed, right? >> well, we're going to save money because we spent about $9 billion and 5 to 6 years going down a pathway that was unsustainable jot president more or less said that. >> yes, that's right. >> neil: but i thought he nixed, buzz, the revisit th
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